Talk:OERu/Planning/MVPsurvey

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Suggested tweaks for the proposed questions320:43, 6 November 2015
Planning/Employability710:47, 5 November 2015

Suggested tweaks for the proposed questions

Hi Sarah,

Thanks for your leadership and generous gift of time to progress our efforts in moving MVP for the first year of study. This is an excellent start and great to see feedback from around the world. A point to consider:

  1. In the interest of keeping these surveys short - I suggest that we drop the question relating to the discipline areas. Respondents will provide a link to the credential so we easily get the information from the urls.
Mackiwg (talk)10:40, 5 November 2015

Also I have had some helpful feedback via from UniSA using a tracked changes method I can't replicate here, but it is focussed on fixing typographical errors and grammatical consistency. Thankyou UniSA team!

Also a request from UHI to remove reference to their 2 nominated courses as they are now working on a Certificate of Higher Ed and courses are tbc. Thanks UHI!

Slambert (talk)15:44, 6 November 2015

Hi Sarah, Thank you for your work on this. The revised survey looks good and should yield some rather critical data. Re: the courses in development, I think you can add Kwantlen's Introduction to Psychology I course (scheduled completion date is May 2016). Cheers, Rajiv

Rjhangiani (talk)20:36, 6 November 2015

Hi Rajiv,

We have the Psychology 1 course proudly listed as a KPU nomination on the planning node.

With a May 2016 completion date - that should be listed on the near completion list and have added this to the draft page.

Thanks!

Mackiwg (talk)20:43, 6 November 2015
 
 
 

Planning/Employability

With the kind of flexibility offered by an OERu degree it would be easy for a student to become lost amidst all the choice and lack direction in their studies. Rather than dictate that to them through rigid course structures (which would seem to go against the principles of OERu) I would suggest including some form of Career Planning module, in which students consider the intended result of their studies (eg. I want to be a Teacher/Economist/Astronaut) and what steps (in particular subjects) along the way will help them be successful in that goal. I run something similar at the University of Canberra as a foundation undergraduate unit, in which we embed foundational Academic Skills and so on, and I'm aware of several equivalent units at other Universities here in Australia.

Jennifer Lawrence University of Canberra Email: jennifer.lawrence@canberra.edu.au

Jennifer.lawrence (talk)18:20, 2 November 2015

I like this idea, especially since several partners are developing or have developed courses that link OER to academic studies--specifically, how students can utilize OER to take control of their studies and work toward a degree or other credential.

Two other comments on the survey:

1. There seems to be a leap from the discussion of a need for courses to be developed to the question of a credential. Since this seems to be intended to solicit help in building courses, I think there should be a question about that: Can your institution provide an open course, or contribute toward the completion of an open course, that would fit into the planned first-year credential? I see the 5th question addresses that--maybe it's only a question of organization.

2. The question about resources (#4) should be more explicit--you are clearly looking for financial resources, rather than labor or in-kind contributions (which is the subject of the subsequent question, which I think is even more important, especially for those institutions--most of us, in all likelihood--that are unable to contribute money).

Marcsinger1 (talk)03:28, 3 November 2015

Thanks for putting the survey together and for the opportunity to comment. Overall, I think it captures what was discussed at the OERu meeting in SA and will gather really helpful information. Two comments from me:

  1. The term '100 level courses' is used - I'm not sure what this refers to (perhaps it is a really common term that I just haven't come across!). Is it better to use the phrase first year level or commencing level or simply describe what this is?
  2. Following on from the point above, we spoke quite a lot in SA about the fact that different countries/states/regions have different requirements in relation to the need to complete content i.e. a first year at a SA university has different requirements to a first year in an Australian university. Does this need to be spelt out a bit more by people who are responding to the question on first year exit qualifications or would this be picked up through reviewing handbooks, etc?
Catherine Clark (talk)17:54, 3 November 2015

I agree with you Catherine, as all universities use different terminology, it would be easy for misunderstandings to arise. There could be confusion about whether question 1 is about giving academic credit (transcript credit) or conferring an award (ie credential), as these are distinguished in the OERu draft credit transfer and articulation guidelines. Suggested alternatives:

Does your University have a Certificate or similar award that would allow students to achieve a credential on successful completion of the 1st full year of study? Does your University have a Certificate or similar framework that would allow students to gain transcript credit for successfully completing 1st year courses?

Question 2 Could "Business or IT" be separated? Could "Other" have a free text box so that we will know is meant by other.

Andy Brown (talk)23:50, 3 November 2015

Hi Andy,

I attempted some rewording on the main wiki page, but your proposal is much clearer. Thanks!

Mackiwg (talk)10:47, 5 November 2015
 
 

I agree with Marc's point about question 4. As it stands I would expect most institutions would opt for No. Could options over a specified time period be provided?

Andy Brown (talk)23:58, 3 November 2015

Thanks to all who have contributed to the discussion - all very helpful. Will continue to monitor over the week. Regards, Sarah

Slambert (talk)15:54, 4 November 2015
 
 

Hi Jennifer,

Yes - I really like your idea for a foundational "career planning" course. Does Canberra uni award formal academic credit for the course? This would be a valuable contribution to the OERu 1st year of study.

Mackiwg (talk)10:44, 5 November 2015